Isaac Herzog won’t apologize for saying intermarriage is a ‘plague’

Last week, Isaac Herzog, the outgoing Labor leader and newly elected head of the Jewish Agency, opened his new role by saying that intermarriage (particularly in USA) between Jews and non-Jews was a “plague” which required a “solution”. Many have commented on this horror. “It’s not a plague, it’s progress,” Robert Lord opined.

But Forward editor Jane Eisner was accommodating. She suggested that the matter was merely “sensitive”, and that Herzog just needs to learn that it is so, and Eisner was “willing to give him the benefit of the doubt here”.

Benefit of the doubt about what? That he didn’t mean what he said?

Unbelievably, this is the lie that Herzog attempts to insert via Eisner, and she does it willingly:

‘On Wednesday, Herzog told me in a phone call from Israel — his first with an American news outlet — that reactions to the Ynet interview “distorted the meaning and intention of what I said. A Jew is a Jew is a Jew, no matter which stream he belongs to, if he wears a skullcap or not.“ The discourse on interfaith relations is different in Israel, he said. He was using magefa as a slang word: “I didn’t mean it in any negative terms.”

This is veritable nonsense. First of all, the issue of “who is a Jew” (“a Jew is a Jew is a Jew”), is not the issue here, at all. It’s about intermarriage and Herzog calling it a “plague”. And then he’s suggesting that the word he used in Hebrew for “plague”, that is , ‘magefa’, is just slang – he’s thus suggesting that it doesn’t mean what it would mean in English.

Ladies and gentlemen, let me tell you, I know the inside and outside of the Hebrew language and its colloquial usage. You understood it fully in English. It means exactly what you think it means. It is of purely negative connotation. For Herzog to suggest that he “didn’t mean it in any negative terms” is just an insult to the intelligence. Did he not think that English speakers would not notice what he is saying when he has just been elected to the parastatal organization which, according to himself, is the “narrow bridge that connects the State of Israel and the Jewish people wherever they are”? Did Herzog think that if he explains it away so disingenuously to Eisner, that there would not be Hebrew speakers who know that he speaks rubbish?

Jane Eisner, editor of the Forward

But Eisner doesn’t care to check. She’s giving Herzog the benefit of the doubt. Probably because he’s considered a ‘liberal’.

“I’m a liberal in my political beliefs,” Herzog told Eisner. “It is not my role in life to be judgmental.” Except for judging intermarriage to be a “plague”, that is.

And Eisner brushes away the wave of critique about this as “hysterical”. “Hysterical opinion columns ensued”, she wrote, without citing one. One is left to wonder which ones she means, whether she perhaps means all of them, and whether she also means the op-ed in her own paper two days earlier by Rokhl Kafrissen, saying “Intermarriage is not a threat to Jews.” Nope, no specifications. The implicit suggestion is that now, Jane Eisner, who provides Herzog with “his first [interview] with an American news outlet” (on this case, she means), will clarify for us the real meaning of Herzog’s words.

But by uncritically parroting Herzog, Eisner is only providing for more confusion, and giving Herzog an easy way out, without having to apologize for his egregiously offensive words.

And behind those words is a policy. In his article about Herzog’s comments showing the dependence of Zionism on intolerant religious strains in Judaism, Yossi Gurvitz pointed to an ad by the Jewish Agency from 9 years ago (Hebrew), where young Jews who inter-marry are regarded as ‘lost’, where the agency asks to contact them if one knows of such lost souls.

But if Herzog’s words are being whitewashed, the non-Hebrew speakers will think they just didn’t get it right, it’s just Israeli Hebrew jargon, move on. This is like Israelis saying that the goyim don’t get them, because they don’t understand Hebrew. If Herzog thinks that this form of deceit will calm American Jews and bring them closer, I believe he has another thing coming. I could say it to him in Hebrew, but I think he gets the essence of it in English too.

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Mageifa can also mean epidemic,not a positive term, but different than plague.

Intermarriage is a fact of life. It is a sign of a group shedding its group consciousness. For group proponents, this is a negative. There will be fewer Jews 100 years from now, the phenomenon of the secular jew will diminish from millions to hundreds of thousands, there will be many people who will be proud to be 1/8th jewish, but they will not consider it a central motif of their identity. There was a century or so of transition spanning from tradition to the current apathy and that century was interesting and is valued by some, but the century is over, from here on its an incredible shrinking man story.

The herzog or Israel slant on the story is political/military and thus ripe for skewering.

Apparently in some Zio quarters it`s worse than a plague it`s wait for wait for it wait for it “self genocide” LOL
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/248174
See comment from esteemed Rabbi (Dr?) Bernhard Rosenberg:
“IT is worse than a plague, it is self-genocide. Without bringing up the children in a Jewish atmosphere and educating the children in the Jewish religion , we as a people are destroying ourselves. I encourage a proper conversion . RABBI DR. BERNHARD ROSENBERG”

These weirdos have simply no idea of how expletive weird they are.

Magefa is also the name of a death metal band from Frankfurt am Main. Death metal is an ‘extreme subgenre of heavy metal’.

Herzog is being strategically panicky. If the proportion of “pure” Jews in the population falls then Zionism loses one of its pillars.
Zionism is a backward reaction to modernity. But modernity wasn’t kind to Jews either 1933-45 and there is trauma too so it is complex.
The Zionists didn’t manage to build a country attractive enough to most US Jews. They had to import cheapskate far right “Jews” from Russia instead and the fertility rate of the Orthodox and ultra Orthodox did the rest.
I think Judaism is a total mess at this stage.

RE: A Jew is a Jew is a Jew, no matter which stream he belongs to, if he wears a skullcap or not.“ The discourse on interfaith relations is different in Israel, he said. He was using magefa as a slang word: “I didn’t mean it in any negative terms.” ~ Herzog

MY COMMENT: A plague is a plague is a plague, and Sheldon Adelson is one hell of a plague!

SEE: “Israel’s sugar daddy, Sheldon Adelson” | by Brad A. Greenberg | JewishJournal.com | June 27, 2008

[EXCERPT] . . . Adelson’s reach hasn’t been limited to charity. In fact, some say he uses money to meddle in Israeli politics, pushing a right-wing vision void of a peace process through his connections with American politicians—Bush called the Republican donor “some crazy Jewish billionaire”—and his free daily newspaper, Israel Hayom, which observers criticize as being stuffed with propaganda for Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu.

At a formal dinner attended by more than a hundred senior officials of various Israeli and Jewish organizations, guests were offered the opportunity to tell Peres what they considered the biggest challenge facing the Jewish people. Adelson, according to Ha’aretz, declared, “I think Jews should have lots of sex. That is the solution to our demographic problem.” . . .

ORIGINAL LINK – http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/israels_sugar_daddy_sheldon_adelson_20080627
CURRENT LINK – http://jewishjournal.com/uncategorized/64532/
INTERNET ARCHIVE (June 27, 2008) – https://web.archive.org/web/20080704091251/http://www.jewishjournal.com/thegodblog/item/israels_sugar_daddy_sheldon_adelson_20080627